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Re: Founder's Server

Post by Insannity » March 16th, 2016, 1:57 pm

This is a extremely fucked up way to start the things out.
If you let the people who buy the 3 month early acess in a "Founders Server" with e.g :5-10k People who bought this type of early acess vs a 2,3x more Free to Play server on 19June IMC are saying " Your help with the 3 month early acess means nothing for us,now you gonna stay reclused in a Low pop Server,with a fucked up economy and no groups and partys at all".

If you let the people with 3,2 and 1 month early acess to merge their teams(characters) with the new F2P Servers on June 19 and let people with 3 months ahead of the F2P players comming up in june 19 IMC are literally saying " THIS GAME IS PAY 2 WIN,cya nerds"

Now what? :hmm:
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Re: Founder's Server

Post by Star.E.Knight » March 16th, 2016, 11:57 pm

Insannity wrote:This is a extremely fucked up way to start the things out.
If you let the people who buy the 3 month early acess in a "Founders Server" with e.g :5-10k People who bought this type of early acess vs a 2,3x more Free to Play server on 19June IMC are saying " Your help with the 3 month early acess means nothing for us,now you gonna stay reclused in a Low pop Server,with a fucked up economy and no groups and partys at all".

If you let the people with 3,2 and 1 month early acess to merge their teams(characters) with the new F2P Servers on June 19 and let people with 3 months ahead of the F2P players comming up in june 19 IMC are literally saying " THIS GAME IS PAY 2 WIN,cya nerds"

Now what? :hmm:
I think people now a days, have the term "Pay to Win" completely messed up in their heads...

Pay to win:
Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items than free to play players and then make the game largely unbalanced and/or impossible for those that do not pay, to win against those that do.


Allowing those to play 3 months before because they choose to support the game, is not play to win, but a game of catch up for those that don't want to pay $60 dollars on this game.

Anyway, to everyone else that is bi*ching about this....

Paying the $60 dollars is not that much if you think about how much TP is going for. 600TP is about $54 so really you're really only paying 6 dollars for the game itself and 3 months of early access... People now a days want everything given to them for free and want everything perfect right off the bat because people are selfish. So instead of bi*ching about this, that, and the other thing, why don't you step into the makers shoes... They have bills to pay too. Games aren't free to make people... <_<

(this is based on more than just this forum about TOS 3 month head start... I'm just getting a bit unhappy with all these sour people out there <_< )
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Post by Courtis » March 17th, 2016, 8:47 am

Allowing those to play 3 months before because they choose to support the game, is not play to win, but a game of catch up for those that don't want to pay $60 dollars on this game.

Anyway, to everyone else that is bi*ching about this....

Paying the $60 dollars is not that much if you think about how much TP is going for. 600TP is about $54 so really you're really only paying 6 dollars for the game itself and 3 months of early access... People now a days want everything given to them for free and want everything perfect right off the bat because people are selfish. So instead of bi*ching about this, that, and the other thing, why don't you step into the makers shoes... They have bills to pay too. Games aren't free to make people... <_<

(this is based on more than just this forum about TOS 3 month head start... I'm just getting a bit unhappy with all these sour people out there <_< )
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Post by SimonBaku » March 17th, 2016, 2:17 pm

Courtis wrote:
Allowing those to play 3 months before because they choose to support the game, is not play to win, but a game of catch up for those that don't want to pay $60 dollars on this game.

Anyway, to everyone else that is bi*ching about this....

Paying the $60 dollars is not that much if you think about how much TP is going for. 600TP is about $54 so really you're really only paying 6 dollars for the game itself and 3 months of early access... People now a days want everything given to them for free and want everything perfect right off the bat because people are selfish. So instead of bi*ching about this, that, and the other thing, why don't you step into the makers shoes... They have bills to pay too. Games aren't free to make people... <_<

(this is based on more than just this forum about TOS 3 month head start... I'm just getting a bit unhappy with all these sour people out there <_< )
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There are ppl from other country can't pay, no because they dont wan
it.! just because they can't. that is unfair, and we believe it may
become a problem in the future. I am not denying the founder's server,
but i believe there isnt gonna be a lot of ppl on that server after the
new ones coming. Please understand, so we will not destroy ourselves.
Founder's server land should be return to F2P.
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Re: Founder's Server

Post by Kigap » March 17th, 2016, 6:43 pm

(March 17 Update; https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/announ ... ans/145592)

Greetings, Saviors!

We have been having much internal debate after seeing your feedback and would like to hear what you think about the following.


First, we would like to explain why we had devised the 3 month Exclusive Access plan.
The main concern we had with the Steam launch was whether we could provide a stable service upon release to a massive international audience.


There are numerous factors that can cause instability, but we anticipate that one of the main causes would be a higher concentration of players than we expected. Many unprecedented problems may affect the servers and creating waiting queues to counter this would merely cause inconvenience for everyone. Furthermore, intrusion of numerous bot accounts would also bring detrimental results to the server and the community.


We thought that the best way to provide a much more pleasant and stable gaming environment would be to estimate the approximate amount of players before the massive international release. This would prepare us to respond ideally as we gradually increase the player base.


As such, we decided that launching different types of Founder's Pack sequentially would be the most realistic option after researching other cases in the past. However, we thought that Founder's Pack purchasers for other games were not receiving sufficient benefits from the Early Access. Thus, we decided to increase the Early Access period. This decision would also allow us to have enough time to stabilize the servers and adapt to international service before opening up to the mass public.


However, we realized that we had missed some critical points after seeing the feedback on yesterday's announcement. The largest point that we missed was that the 3-month gap may cause a divide in the gaming community. We had made options to access the game at lower prices after 1 or 2 months in order to lessen such a divide but realized that it wasn't enough. The feedback gave us a chance to reconsider the initial plan of having 3 months of exclusive access as it proved to be too long for many players.


We consider communities to be an integral part of MMORPGs and we consider each and every single player to be important to us regardless of whether or not they pay for the game. We would also like to offer our sincerest apologies for changing to a Founder's Server after announcing an Open Beta without sufficient explanation.


We would like to find a way to make amends for announcing a news that let many players down who had been waiting for an Open Beta.


Therefore, we would like to ask the users for their opinions on the following before making the final decision.


We understand you may not agree with any of the options mentioned below. In that case, please tell us what you think is a more reasonable method. We are always attentively listening to your feedback.


As always, we thank you for your interest, enthusiasm, and love for Tree of Savior.


Please refer to the information below for details of each launch plan before proceeding to the poll.


[ 1 Week Staggered Exclusive Access Period ]
The first option is to reduce the Early Access period to 1 week.

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 1
A. Price : $49.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 7 days
C. Benefits : 650 TP + 2 Hair Accessories (Hanaming + Popolion Doll)

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 2
A. Price : $29.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 4 days(3 days after previous pass)
C. Benefits : 380 TP + 1 Hair Accessory (Popolion Doll)

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 3
A. Price : $9.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 1 day(3 days after previous pass)
C. Benefits : 130 TP



[ 1 Month Exclusive Access Period ]
The second option is to reduce the Early Access period to 1 month.

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 1
A. Price : $49.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 1 month
C. Benefits : 650 TP + 1 x 60 day Token + 2 Hair Accessories (Hanaming + Popolion Doll) + 1 Companion (Hoglan) + 1 Stat / Skill Reset Potion

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 2
A. Price : $29.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 1 month
C. Benefits : 380 TP + 1 x 30 day Token + 1 Hair Accessory (Popolion Doll)

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 3
A. Price : $9.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 1 month
C. Benefits : 160 TP




[ 3 Month Staggered Exclusive Access Period ]
The third option is having the 3-month Early Access period as we mentioned.

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 1
A. Price : $49.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 3 Months
C. Benefits : 600 TP + 2 Hair Accessories (Hanaming + Popolion Doll)

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 2
A. Price : $29.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 2 Months(1 month after previous pass)
C. Benefits : 350 TP + 1 Hair Accessory (Popolion Doll)

Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 3
A. Price : $19.99
B. Exclusive Access Period : 1 Month(1 month after previous pass)
C. Benefits : 200 TP



The poll will end in 24 hours at 4 a.m(EST) March 18th, 2016.
Service shall start on a similar date regardless of which option is chosen.
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Re: Founder's Server

Post by havilliard » April 8th, 2016, 4:05 pm

Greetings, Saviors!

We would like to offer more details on what we have planned for the transition to F2P on the 28th of April, 2016. There is much more than meets the eye, so please read the notice carefully to make sure you do not miss out on anything important.

[Founder’s Server : Exclusive Access - Discount Sale]

The Founder’s Server : Exclusive Access products will be offered at 30% off the original price from the 21st of April until they are taken down from Steam stores on the 27th of April.

The reason for this sale is to compensate for the lack of head-start that players who purchase the products late into the Exclusive Access period would have.


[Transition to F2P and Additional Worlds]

As we have previously announced, we are planning on creating new worlds if there is a sufficient influx of new players when the game releases to the mass public.

However, we will not be creating new worlds immediately upon release. We are planning on opening them gradually in accordance to the influx of new players.

We are aware that the number of players per world is extremely important to an MMORPG and do not want the population divided. Players on the Founder’s servers may feel like they are being penalized if the new worlds are immediately opened and all the new players go to those servers.

We will be offering 1-time Team transfers to those who purchased Founder's Server : Exclusive Access.
Only 1 Team transfer per Steam account will be allowed regardless of the number of products purchased.

We will be taking requests from those who would like to make a Team transfer once new worlds open. The transfers will happen approximately 3 weeks after the new worlds are created in order to ensure that some of the head-start effects brought by older players are reduced.


Thank you for your support and enthusiasm for Tree of Savior. We hope that we will be able to work together towards mutually beneficial results.

Sincerely,
IMC Staff

[UPDATE - March 28th, 2016]
Team name:
Team name is unique across all servers, so you cannot have the same Team name on multiple servers. Therefore, this will not be a problem when transferring Teams.

What gets transferred:
Characters, TP, companions, and ongoing Token benefits. If you have an item registered on the Market, please take it back to your possession before the transfer to ensure the safety of your item.
We'll remind you again in our later announcement.

If you have not retrieved your Exclusive Access items, the mail will also appear on the new server(s).
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