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SW 1, Pelt 1, HL 3, Doppel 3?

Posted: December 15th, 2017, 2:34 am
by Malregard
Hey all, newbie here trying a couple of ideas, and I was looking for any opinions/feedback on a potential build I came up with.

So now first thing, I understand Doppel is all about the brutal, fast DPS at the expense of some hardiness (most notably through Deeds of Valor). I like the idea of killing the enemy before they can inflict enough damage/CC to exploit your squishiness, but I also like the idea of a little added survivability even at the expense of some of that sweet damage.

So, what about SW 1, Pelt 1, HL 3 and Doppel 3, with a heavy stat investment into Str and Con?

The primary trade here would be Guardian for Deeds of Valor (and Gung Ho for Concentrate in the SW line). Also, with limited Dex investment, the Critical score would drop significantly enough that I would opt for a full plate set as opposed to leather or something more Crit friendly. I know the loss of DoV's DPS is pretty extreme, but are the max'd out damage attacks of Doppel/HL enough to remain viable as a secondary DPS melee? Would the +25% defense bonus from Guardian, combined with Plate armor and 130+ Con be enough to withstand some face to face punishment?

The other benefit Pelt 1 seems to offer is the addition of Swash Buckling, which might aid in pulling mobs and reducing run-around-the-map time.

One could even consider going Pelt 2 at R9 for additional Guardian, SB, and even High Guard to act as an off-tank in dungeons or situations which require the melee to take that role. Of course, you could also grab Barb 1 or even Shinobi instead to regain some of that lost DPS if thats more inline with your playstyle.

Just a thought. I'm sure I've missed some holes or issues with the template, so thats why I'm offering it up for scrutiny.

Any feedback is appreciated.

Re: SW 1, Pelt 1, HL 3, Doppel 3?

Posted: August 7th, 2018, 9:53 am
by danndias
Hello,

I read your post and I thought about the Pelt at this build and I think that is not a good Idea! Because the passives from peltasta class is with shield and is obviously that u'll use 2hand sword! So, in this way, I prefer only HL with cross guard to defend some hits.

About your intention to survive, investing stats points in CON is better, and taking liberty to say about stats building, DEX is a worst investment just because a critical rate is too low to enjoy critical hits (instead of using a leather set and Marnox cards combo). But i think is better plate set with high STR/CON using 5:1 ratio for more block rate/HP or 9:1 to more damage/accuracy.

The other point is Smash buckling, as I said, you ll not use shield and if you want to lure mobs, swordsman can provoke using attribute provoke* that automatically lure mobs.

*http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/101020/

So, on my opinion, the best way to hybrid Doppel is (STR/CON 1:5)...

SW 1 - Off course :pif:
HL 3 - To use 2H and future combo... :rice:
DP 3 - You know why :no1:
Shinobi - This is great combo!! TAJU, KAGE BUSHIN JUTSO!! :omg:

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simu ... 64j4lw0y9/ :gawi:

Re: SW 1, Pelt 1, HL 3, Doppel 3?

Posted: August 10th, 2018, 6:25 pm
by CubyHielo
is a old post dunno why is answered at any case:

SW1 buffs are almost negligible in terms of dmg
Pelt 1 may be it makes you tanky for few seconds but doppel 3 is for pve, and in pve the only content that needs defense is Velcoffer and you need constant defense always so is not reliable.
High 3 gives good bursts but i prefer a lot more barbarian 3 since it gives you dmg buffs and extend the duration of the debuffs so your doppel 3 does a lot more dmg and has more consistent dmg overall.
Also if you're really into hl you can go sw1, hl, barbarian 3, doppel 3, high 3
But i prefer the standard sw2 barb 3 doppel 3 shinobi

In the other hand if you want to make a defensive character you can go:
Peltasta 3 Rodelo 3 Murmillo 2/3 (with the next rank)
peltasta 2 rodelo 3 shinobi murmillo 2/3

or if you're more on the pvp side
Peltasta 3 rodelo 1 (filler) shinobi reitarus 2/3
in the filler you can or doppel for the cyclone so you do pve nicely or anything else really but fencer/cata.