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My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 22nd, 2016, 6:07 pm
by Patamr
Hello

So, I wanna be a Doppel c3 :o

What you guys think about this build?

Sword c1 - High c1 - Barb c2 - Pelt c1 - Doppel c3

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simu ... er5yn7ca0/

or

Sword c1 - High c1 - Barb c2 - Corsair c1 - Doppel c3

Corsair for some farm (Jolly Roger) and the hook (Pvp maybe?)

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 22nd, 2016, 10:53 pm
by Suzushii
At first to be sure, what are you wanna do? Pure DD right? For pvp there are some wariations but max safe route is


Swordsman -> Highlander C3 -> Barbarian -> Doppel
Actually not sure but if i good remeber barbarian have some too crit attribute, if not just go:
Swordsman C2 -> Highlander C3 -> Do-what-you-want -> Doppel

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 23rd, 2016, 12:45 am
by Patamr
Swordsman -> Highlander C3 -> Barbarian -> Doppel

:?:

Highlander c3 is better? Why not Barbarian c3?

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 23rd, 2016, 4:45 am
by renseiryuu
I think it's because Highlander C3 give you some status-inducing combos (Crosscut + Skyliner, Skull Swing + Vertical Slash), while Barbarian C3 only offered damage (which Doppelsoeldner C3 could do better).

The reason to take Barbarian C1 is because of Cleave (extra critical chance for 5 seconds after the skill hit).

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 23rd, 2016, 11:00 am
by dewadewa220193
if you go highlander c3, someone already tested it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53LbggANDI.

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 23rd, 2016, 11:42 am
by Suzushii
dewadewa220193 wrote:if you go highlander c3, someone already tested it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R53LbggANDI.
>2015
Slowpoke mode

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 23rd, 2016, 2:13 pm
by dewadewa220193
Oh wrong queue link, damn my bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJU9lfQoUvM

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 24th, 2016, 2:33 am
by silentwolf
renseiryuu wrote: The reason to take Barbarian C1 is because of Cleave (extra critical chance for 5 seconds after the skill hit).
I'm pretty sure that:

-When using cleave on a stunned target, it will deal more damage and have +50 critical rate more, for cleave during that hit only.
-Cleave lands a debuff that lasts for 5seconds making the target more vulnerable to slash type moves. (+50%, less vulnerability compared to spear lunge).

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 24th, 2016, 5:29 am
by renseiryuu
silentwolf wrote:
renseiryuu wrote: The reason to take Barbarian C1 is because of Cleave (extra critical chance for 5 seconds after the skill hit).
I'm pretty sure that:

-When using cleave on a stunned target, it will deal more damage and have +50 critical rate more, for cleave during that hit only.
-Cleave lands a debuff that lasts for 5seconds making the target more vulnerable to slash type moves. (+50%, less vulnerability compared to spear lunge).
Oh, I see. Seems like the skill has been changed ever since the last time I looked around.

But that Slash debuff from Cleave still would be useful for Doppelsoeldner C3, since most of its skills are Slash-based.

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 24th, 2016, 8:27 am
by Suzushii
Ok I just take a look on this build and have now one question. Why you pick Peltasta? Serious, don't do this, take Barb C3 And burst Cleave Warcry and Seism.

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 25th, 2016, 2:33 am
by Patamr
xD u right

Sorry to bother you with questions
No more Peltasta

I was thinking...

Sword - Highlander c3 - Barbarian c1 - Doppel c3

or...

Sword - Highlander c2 - Barbarian c2 - Doppel c3

My last question is... :wah:

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Barbarian c2...
Warcry lvl5, how good is it on high lvls?

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Highlander c3...
Crosscut lvl10 -> good?

Cross Guard lvl15 -> good? useful?

Skull Swing -> good?

Re: My strange (stupid maybe) build

Posted: August 25th, 2016, 1:12 pm
by Suzushii
Patamr wrote: Sword - Highlander c3 - Barbarian c1 - Doppel c3
or...
Sword - Highlander c2 - Barbarian c2 - Doppel c3
Well, what you want? Buff or debuff?
Actually I have both C3 on two characters. Barb look better because you can buff yourself what always work. We have plenty of enemies immune to bleed.
Just pick C1 High, it's enough.

Read a little more about frenzy+deeds, I heard it's nice combo.
Never pick C2 only. Because you never got good damage in this way. Highlander skills look nice and burst your DPS but not Damage you Deal. Yes it's two other ways. And mamy players pick barb C3 so far I see.